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HUMSAFAR WATCH PARTY : Episode 17

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I think at this point in the story Humsafar as a serial had gotten so popular that it had become a national obsession. There were series of great cartoons about it from around episode 12 and a lot of people who hadn’t seen it from the first episode had managed to catch up or at least grabbed enough of the story to be thoroughly involved. Everyone was rooting for Asher and Khirad to get back together and in this episode they did. Despite their constant “yeh sirf Waqti Samjhota hai”, Khirad’s attempts at nonchalance and Asher’s sniping subconsciously it was all over. Sarmad Khoosat presented tableaux after beautiful tableaux of the three of them in very normal family situations which should have been horribly uncomfortable but instead flowed as smoothly as a stream of silk through an expert’s hand. images (29) There were no voice over’s needed to explain the character’s feelings their expressions and judicious use of the unforgettable OST was enough.

 

At the hospital we see how Asher is taking care of everything and Khirad finally has someone to share this heavy burden with. The strain a child’s illness can put on a family is huge and to carry it alone even more so .In their relief they forget to observe the distances and formalities their anger had placed between them. Despite Khirad’s appearance of strength the audience is shown her desperate loneliness when Asher takes Hareem away to read a book. I loved Mahirah in this role and that scene amongst so many was heartbreaking. Instead of breaking down though she begins to pray because that spiritual strength is what got her through such difficult times. Khirad is not the mazloom aurat which so many half-baked criticisms of Humsafar are based on, she is a strong woman who does not fall at Asher’s feet (Damn !!) asking for justice or even accuse him of letting her down. She is working to support herself and Hareem and is planning ahead for a future without Asher.images (31)

 

Asher’s confusion is plain to see, since he has come to doubt the image he had formed of Khirad he expects to see the lying, conniving individual he has formed in his imagination to explain the situation. He asks Hareem who told her to always tell the truth, he expects Khirad to be angry and retaliate to his taunts; he expects a reaction from her which just isn’t forthcoming. His frustration, physical

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and emotional is so well captured scene after scene.When he pushes Khirad against the wall because he had to lie to his mother, again when Hareem asks for a brother. This was the famous “set the screen on fire chemistry” that had us all hooked.images (30) The visit of the Canadian friends encapsulates their situation perfectly. The visiting friends who have no clue what happened in the last Four and a half years, apart from a little formality can see no distance between Asher and Khirad. Despite their superficial denial both Asher and Khirad are happier than they have been in a long time. Asher is even trying to give up smoking.

 

Meanwhile Sara has not given up on Asher, she knows him so well she immediately picks up on the change in his behavior. What a confrontation scene between her and “the family” in the restaurant. Asher standing up and literally threatening Sara at the implied insult to his daughter certainly made the audience’s day and we were all left waiting breathlessly for the secrets to unfold.download (11)

 

One thing I must mention despite my long review was the sheer self-centered complacency of the Sara, Zarina and Khizar. I found the clinical ,casual way Zarina and Sara discuss what Khizar has done and how they assess his character disturbing .It was as if Khirad was not even human and what had happened to her had little or no importance in their eyes .

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  • KhiAsh Fan

    Hareem’s “Ab toh mujhe hi theek karna padega” when Ashar messes up her house in the coloring book is clearly a metaphor for the child having to mend Ashar and Khirad’s home :)

  • aman asha

    Hello I am from India, currently watching Humsafar with the rest of my country. Can I just say what a great experience it has been. words are inadequate for how the literate middle and upper middle classes have treated the drama. I believe that lasting peace between our countries(brothers under our skins) will come only through cultural exchange. The discussion here is …”We get them( Pakistanis) completely”. F

    • Thanks for commenting Aman asha . I am so glad you are enjoying Humsafar . It is just my favorite drama ever . Each time I watch it I love it more :) All our prayers are for peace . please join in the regular sometimes very passionate discussions we have on dramas …

  • Roh

    @shazch: Absolutely right where Farida was concerned. Didn’t she say that very clearly that she knew her son very well? She knew how he would react, and possibly his exact knee jerk reactions, and Ashar did just that, when the issue was hot and boiling. What she didn’t know was that he would never get over Khirad, never marry anyone else, and in the process the time that went by (time being a healer and eventually calming things down, if one wants to) would actually make him want to overlook all Khirads supposed faults, and want to reunite with her as a family.
    I also agree, that he tried all possible ways, to get her to come back into his life, and finally admitted that he could never get over her and that was the reason he wanted her back.
    aaaaaaahhhhhhhh…..can’t wait till we move on week by week. Its going to get more and more intense as every scene continues to play such meaningful bits in the whole story. ***Sigh***

  • shazch

    @RB what I love about your comments is that they make me re analyse and please don’t think we are trying to rail road you into what we think.Your opinion is valid and enjoy the debate. SO lets go back to the redemption thing.In episode 19 .The hospital bed scene and then when Ashar bares his soul.Firstly he tries the angle of Hareem and when he realises that isn’t working he tells her the truth he wants her despite what she did he doesn’t care.For me this was so powerful and is this not the ultimate forgiveness.We have a man who is prepared to move on.This would have resonated with Khirad despite her cold exterior and then the showdown all culminated in the walls crashing down. Also I think the difference is at perhaps if we all reflect on our personal lives is that it is easier to stay cold and detached when there is a physical distance but when you come face to face and receive an apology and an explanation most of us would forgive.
    @Sadaf I am glad you liked the toy reference I really felt for her and I totally agree with your husband, deep down Asher knew and in episode 12 he does come back and all would have been well . However, Farida being Farida knew that if Ashar got to speak to Khirad face to face it would all be over for her.Master manipulator that she is.

  • Roh

    I have to agree completely with SK here. I can’t comment on any of the other characters that have been brought into the discussion because I haven’t watched any of those dramas. My specialization is Humsafar only, so I will stick to that! Lol
    RB, I think I can see where you are coming from. I often think about this that why is it that there must be a man in a woman’s life for her to have a life. But I do not see that situation in Khirad’s story (which I agree, what HS is all about) I see that when girls believe that they must get married to “settle”, that there must be a man in her life to earn her living, to help her make her decisions and various other similar things.
    If we are going to look at Khirad eventually going back to Ashar and forgiving him in isolation, and not follow the story that led to that, (and every second as it has been executed in HS) it’s definitely a case of “why in the world did she go back to him?”
    But as SK says, there was tremendous regret in Ashar when he discovered the truth. Add to that Ashar’s confrontation with Farida. Not only did he give it to his mother, but also it told Khirad a lot about his side of the story, his feelings, his victimization, and it put her back on the pedestal where he always had her.
    Also, as SK says, when there are children, it changes the ball game completely.
    I’ve kept this as short as I could, because though I have tons to say (as always! lol) I’m going to keep my views on this whole issue for the last episode, because I’m sure this whole discussion will come up again.

  • SK

    Hello am back, I guess we may have to agree to disagree lol where are my friends to help me lol
    I felt Ashar was truly repentant. He never remarried and look at all the things he said to his mother? Did he not ask for forgiveness? If he had not done any of those things then I would have said no Khirad should not go back to him, but what I believe due to my faith, if someone is truly repentant and asks for forgiveness why can you not? I believe that god forgives us when we do wrong. And we are his creation so who are we to not forgive each other as human brings when we are so flawed.
    Ashars mother did all those things to Khirad not him, yes he made mistakes but we have already gone through that, but he did not kick her out or even divorce her. He was truly gutted and ashamed when he found out and it’s not like Khirad was back in love with him still, it would probably take a long time as she said the love is lost somewhere. He is the one who fell back in love with her even thinking he would forgive her for her apparent indiscretion. I am not saying Ashar is perfect , he had flaws, but he saw a very compromising situation with his own eyes, and the very detailed buildup his own mother had executed, most men would act like that.
    We as women have to realize a makeup of a man is very different to how women think and act. By nature women are more giving, emotional and patient. Can a man ever go through labour? Women bear children and go through the trials of pregnancy, childbirth how can they be equal? we can not compare women and men all the time in the same context as they have been created very differently. Yes there should be no injustices in the relationship and they should respect each other, but people have flaws and problems happen. I think you can work through issues if you want to, in Kankar Kiran chose not too and walked away. Again she did not have children. I don’t know if you have kids, but I just can’t explain how important they are. Ashar begged her to accept him for hareems sake, if she hadn’t what would be the point of them both being miserable apart. Ashar I am sure would still not have remarried as she is the one he loved
    Khirad stood her ground a very long time. Did she ever try to prove her innocence once she came back? Not once, She could have but she didn’t. At the time of course she tried , anybody would.
    As for Ali and Sania, I don’t think Ali ever really loved Sania to tell you honestly, he had major issues respecting her, he wasn’t a very good dad to begin with as he had spent so much time away, and he had many complexes and a huge authoritarian streak. The fact that he had not even seen anything with his own eyes makes his decision so much more rash, but I really didn’t expect anything else from him.
    Sorry have gone on a long time, I do agree with a lot of your points but if Ashar had done all this directly to her, then I would agree it would be very tough yo forgive him. Or you could forgive someone but just not go back to them as it is too tough to get over but like I said the intensity if ashars convo with his mom really shocked her and threw the blind of her eyes too of what she had thought.

  • RB

    @SK Yeah, agreed, but living apart doesn’t diminish your love for the person. I mean there is a thing called long distance (but momentarily setting that aside). They might not be in same house but they certainly lived in the same compound, in fact, opposite each other. Second, if a child is an important factor then why are Ali and Sania of Shuk fame divorced and living poles apart (and I agree with you on children keeping couples together). ::I wait for your retort on Ali and Sania and how they’re different::

    Instead of finding differences to compare and contrast – no Khirad is like this, no Saba like this, no this not how it is, etc. – what I hope you’ll take from these portrayals is the simple inability for a woman in contemporary society to exercise her rights (to property, to children, to divorce, to love, to respect, and even to self determination). She must at some point come into contact with a man be it good, bad, or ugly. That is what I’, trying to get at.

    Sometimes we love a series so much that it exasperates us, or maybe, frustrates us that certain things could have been handled better, I have said this before and I will say this again, I don’t think Khirad needed to go back to Ashar. As someone suggested money being an issue then Ashar as a responsible father (which I believe he is, he might not be strong but he’s certainly fair to his child) would provide for Hareem’s schooling and living expenses like most separated or divorced couples do. At the end of the day we want to see them together, we want love stories when in fact what we need is to encourage women to stand up against injustice. And injustice it is when your saas plots and schemes and kicks you out of the house when you’re pregnant, poisons your husband’s mind, and then to top it off we want them to make it work. Yes, by all means try but can you? Is it only me who sees how despicable that is? How constantly Khirad needs to prove her innocence when she is the only one untainted by (for lack of a better word) sin.

    Finally, on a similar but somewhat different note not all men are like Ashar and his ilk, not all men are blind to forgiveness, not all men are unable to fathom love and kindness. Yet what we see on screen is yet again a man unable to come to terms with his emotional side for it would bring into question his masculinity. Very, very sad. And to think as women you’d want to move away from unequal relationships and as much as you want to argue that Khirad and Ashar are equals, they are not, had they been Humsafar would have progressed very differently after Episode 12.

  • Sadaf

    I think Sk has covered my main points so High five there ! I want to add that in my opinion what all the religious books of all the religions say about forgiveness is true ..it is the most powerful thing in the world and the best revenge is not hum tho doobey hain sanam tum ko bhi ley key doobey gey but to actually live well , really well.
    @Shazch That toy metaphor is very apt , very apt.
    when watching this My husband said ,asher knows Khirad could not have done that but he cannot quite get his head around the Faraib his mother has perpetrated …hence is acceptance of hareem sans DNA test etc.

  • shazch

    @Sk good points about the comparision between Saba and Khirad.Also yes the showndown was an eye opener for Khirad I have wondered recently if part of her also thought that Ashar had done they typical male fickle thing.She refers to herself as Asher’ s favourite toy who he got bored of in the next episode.So maybe she thought the situation suited him and he used it to his advantage remember the heartbreak before episode 11 and apart from the sweet telephone conversation they never clear the air.
    @Roh I think it was more that Sara implied how pathetic are you Ashar to accept Hareem and how do you know she is your daughter.

  • SK

    *abusers sorry

  • SK

    @RB
    Two quick points. Saba had never lived with Afreen, so they really had not had a married life..maybe it was much easier for her to reject him. Secondly they had no children together, a child is a huge thing in keeping many couples together. We can not really compare her and Khirads circumstances due to those two factors , although they both were falsely accused. Also agree with you regarding UA stereotypes , but aren’t Saba and Kiran from Kankar both her heroines, so she does not always have them return to the man, they both rejected their a users.
    Another thing Khirad numerous times was shown to hate asking for Ashars help, she would never have come back to him if it wasn’t for hareems illness. Where can you get so much money from simply as a math teacher, she tried her best but Hareem needed her father at that point.
    She also was totally amazed by Ashars final confrontation with his mother in front if her, that was a huge eye opener for her.
    @roh… My comments always get posted later, for some reason don’t get submitted at the time lol!!
    But loved your points, always great reading your views! I think Sara the way she said that phrase was more what made Ashars angry, in a very condescending and insulting tone. Otherwise yes literally I also don’t know what was so bad about it lol

  • RB

    @Sadaf @Roh @shazch I’ve finally caught up! Sometimes I think there’s so much reading to finish. It never ends. Joys of student life. For me Humsafar is and will always be Khirad’s story – her naiveté, her weaknesses, her strength, and her transitions. As many of you have already noted Khirad’s strength is partly because of her spirituality or better yet religiosity (and I completely agree). I can’t help but think of Saba from Meri Zaat Zara-e-Benishan, whom after a complete betrayal in love retains both a dignity and strength in the face of injustice (don’t even get me started on that though!) very much like Khirad.

    Until this point I think Khirad was justified and rightly so in her reactions to Ashar and his ghar, maa, aur dost, lekin as soon as the plot starts to have them fall back in love I found it hard to believe, as much as I see your point Roh that couples are willing to overlook a lot (and YES I agree from experience!), I also know most men and their fitrat well enough to realise that no man will take charges of infidelity (especially desi men) lightly. For them even the slightest question on their wife’s kirdar is unbearable and hence we get a host of dramas with the same theme – innocent girl wrongly accused, verbally abused (if not physically), thrown out, becomes one with God (after all Allah is THE prop for martyrs), and then returns with an inner strength to clear her name. As much as I am a complete sucker for this mazloom aurat transitionary drama trope what I hope we will see on our screens is a character that stands her ground without the whole “Main woh kis tarhan say karun bayan jo kiye gaye hain sitam yahan. Sunay kaun meri yeh dastaan koi humnasheen hai na razdan” syndrome.

    We have countless woman in our mashara who desperately NEED a positive role model, and Khirad is a step in the right direction but as MM has screamed herself hoarse on the Shuk reviews we need a woman to be strong and independent. Independence doesn’t necessarily mean distance from God, because clearly Khirad’s mother was both independent and Godly (as is Bitul Khala and Rafia in Zindagi Gulzar Hai to mention but a few). What we need and an urgently at that is a story that’ll take us away from our obsession with star crossed lovers.

    This is why I brought up Saba from Meri Zaat Zara e Benishan. There are parts of her that I see in Khirad but then I think Saba never returned back (whether she found God or was simply unable to trust the people in her life again she made a decision to keep herself away from the very people whom she desperately needed at one point in time). That in my opinion makes her physically, emotionally, and spiritually much stronger than Khriad. Also, I hope I get to have a chat with Mohtarma Umera Ahmed on her female leads (like seriously!). She needs a GBF.

    The scene I love, love, love is when Ashar finally shuts Sara up. I think if there’s ever a realisation on Sara’s part that Ashar will never be hers is at the restaurant when he asks her to leave. You can just tell from her face and his body language. That ship has long sailed, Ms. S.

    Sorry for the rather long post. :)

    • shazch

      @RB whole heartedly agree that this is Khirad’s story but I think sometimes there is too much focus on the mazloom aurat business the fact is we all know that Khirad was going to be fine as she was strong and independent.To be fair she never needed Ashar yes she was exhausted but hand on heart we all know even when she left Hareem she would survive albeit a half live.However, after the big showdown she realised she
      she wanted him and that is a big difference than needing.I also think Humsafar transcended all the redemption stuff it was a simple a story about two star crossed lovers.
      As much as I loved Saba’s grace and strength I could never relate to her or Faisal’s character possibly because I never bought into their love story. However, I always felt Ashar and Khirad were more real yes they were flawed but we saw aspects of their own lives reflected in their marriage (After I typed this I remembered that I think Sadaf has wrote something similar I would apologise for stealing but for some reason Humsafar seems like a joint venture between us all )

  • shazch

    Lol! Many many times but to be fair he always heard something worthwhile. Or maybe not as he always got a reality check.

  • Roh

    @shazch: I never thought of that – that this must have been the point he 1st thought that Khizar was not in her life anymore.
    Yeah, everytime Ashar overheard a conversation, it made an impact on him enought to get him to react, even if it was flinching. And how many times did he snoop? Many many times. :)

  • shazch

    @Roh Ashar definitely heard.One of the things that may have crossed his mind was that Khizar had left Khirad and part of her elaborate plan was to reunite him.However, yet again Khirad being Khirad leaves him with no illusions.Takes me back when he overheard Baseerat’s conversation and his attitude softened.
    I am not sure why people were complaining every scene added value and equally if it had been rushed they would have complained they got back to quickly.
    On a separate note I missed Baseerat the house felt empty without him.

  • Roh

    @SK: I swear your reply wasn’t there yesterday when I posted! But its here today and I was so thrilled to read from you.
    I saw it the exact same way as you, and you nailed it when you said Ashar didn’t have closure and therefore he continued to behave like a wounded animal.
    I remember reading too that people were saying it was dragging at this time, but these are all the little things put together, that makes you understand why Khirad accepted Ashar again and why she did so at the time she did and not before.
    I also remember reading Neeraja Unni’s review on this and I quite agreed with what she said at this stage about Khirad and Ashar. She had said that Khirad had Hareem to love and the mother in her moved on with her life with her child and the love from that relationship. Ashar had no one and nothing to help him heal. Another reason why Khirad was in control of herself and feelings at most times and Ashar erupted at every moment, blaming her for his miseries.
    Another question I had. Did Ashar overhear Khirad’s conversation on the phone with Batool Khala in the kitchen? Is that why he used the exact same words “Waqti samjhauta” when he told her of? I think he snooped. Keeping in line with his characater, where Khirad was concerned. LOL What do you think?

  • shazch

    @sk really good points and I am so glad you posted again yes Ashar never had closure hence the pent up anger.Khirad in her eyes had closed chapter and verse on Ashar but the ice started thawing and yes the hand scene was the first physical aspect of that.
    @Roh million dollar comment as ever.As for the canadian friends scene I for one am glad they changed from the book if they hadn’t people would have said typical man wooed by food.This way nothing detracts from the romance.So true as SK also observed was the blink and you miss the softening between both.As for Ashar standing up from his chair to tell Sara off how many of us nearly did the same.Just had a thought maybe this is the point that Khirad thinks it may be right to leave Hareem with him as he may not have stood up for Khirad but he will for Hareem.As for FK and the angry young man scene he just gets better and better in each episode.
    @Sadaf so sweet about the hand, tears business and the dinner parties.I think once in a generation there comes a drama which touches a deep chord and for us it was Humsafar.

  • Roh

    So! Here are my never ending thoughts!
    I remember the scene of the 1st pic in the review, and I never really liked it too much, because I couldn’t understand the look that I saw on Khirad’s face which was kind of guilty. I remember asking you about this many times over, and like many other things in HS, the tubelight comes on much later, in spite of watching it over and over again, this was one such scene which opened my eyes after I read this review.
    Maybe this was also one of the scenes where she felt that as much as she detested this man, or so she thought “mohabbat mari nahi, lekin kho zaroor gayi hai” ***sigh***
    Added to that her thoughts when Ashar takes Hareem to her room to read and then sleep. She probably felt that this is what her daughter is missing out on, with her parents being separated.
    The friends visiting scene made more sense to me, after I read the discussions on that with reference to the novel and what it intended to establish.
    Wanted to slap Ashar when he put her down by telling her not to bother to make anything for dinner for the guests. Mean, nasty, horrid. Just lashing out when he was not able to handle his emotions. And all because he kept fighting it by not giving it any thought.
    When Khirad tells Hareem to stop talking nonsense when she asked her father for a brother, Ashar didn’t know what to say, and Khirad actually bailed him out. Seems like this kind of bailing each other out were happening in an underlying way so many times. Khirad would try and reprimand Hareem by just calling her name in an admonishing way when she wanted Ashar to stay with her after reading her a story too. Similarly, he too intervened when Khirad was upset with Hareem about going to the zoom. Kind of trying to help out of a sticky situation. Sweet.
    I loved the confrontation again when he said he didn’t want her to speak to domestic workers about personal stuff. Yet again, she had the last word and he had nothing to say. Evidently leaving him flustered and not at ease with himself.
    Sara was brilliant while she was speaking to Khizar. “kya musibat hai”! For a debutante, she was fantastic. I just loved the way she cut the call pretending she couldn’t hear anything. Losing network! Lol I’m guilty of that too when I have had enough of the caller!
    And then when she and Zarina are speaking about Khizar? I like the way they were talking as though they were not any part of the saazish at all. So often we meet people who believe that they have done nothing wrong and keep looking at the wrong doing of others! Typical case of that!
    Loved the way Khirad hesitated before going to the bedroom which was once hers too. She had been told off by her husband, not too long ago, that this house was his, and naturally she would hesitate to just walk in there.
    As always, he keeps blaming her for everything in his life. That was another scene I loved when he is trying to put words in her mouth, and she gives back the complete unexpected. I think he was hoping he could push her to say something about his “bhaagi hui biwi” and all she told him in not so many words was “buzz off”
    Again, Khirad’s words to come, that she doesn’t consider him worth even having a conversation holds good.
    Going over the conversation with the doctor in the car, was the turning point in my mind, of Ashar feeling anything for Khirad. When she asks the doc if her daughter will be ok, is what I think made him begin thinking that, Yes, she too is very worried about Hareem, and its not only about him and his anger towards her. There are feelings there, and he felt something for that. Might again be my imagination completely, but that marked the beginning of him softening towards her.
    I have a very possibly dumb question to ask. I’m still trying to figure out why Ashar took so much offence to Sara’s line of “pali palyaayi aulad bhi mil gayi” What does it exactly imply? I mean, I understand the line in the literal sense, but what is the insult? I’m missing that.
    I also noticed this was the 1st of many things to come, that Ashar still doesn’t like it when something is said to Khirad by someone else. (Sara asking her those loaded rhetoric questions) Another typical case of I’ll say what I want to what is mine, but I won’t take it from an outsider. Very normal human behaviour. Khirad possibly made another mental note there, that her husband hadn’t told his best friend that she was back in town. But she was past caring to make anything out of it at this stage.
    No words to describe Fawad as an angry young man. He was at his handsomest most in the last scene when he was telling Sara to leave. Clenching his jaws, he seems to put every nerve in him on fire with his anger! He is just too good. Mahira, OTOH, complements perfectly with her contempt and disgust. A very mild change in expression, but those eyes say it all. Add Sara with her obsession, Farida with her master plan fabulous direction, and almost every little main detail taken care of, (ignoring the level of Ashar’s iced tea, among others as minute stuff that doesn’t matter) no wonder HS was the blockbuster that it was and you had empty roads on the street!
    (Folks, I promise I tried to make this short this time. But the words just don’t stop! Lol )

  • Roh

    @shazch: aaaaah…..words from my heart. About Khirad looking at Ashar straight in the eye and the reference to that episode where he says she could never do that. Now she gives him the look, and with such utter disgust, I just love it.
    This is what I really love about Khirad’s character. There is no self pity or wallowing in “why has this happened to ME?” Even when she shares with Afsheen, that she thought life had dished out the worst to her with her being abandoned for no fault of hers, and now she had to deal with a grave illness and no money for treatment. Not once did she beg for help as a helpless person. She held her head high, and demanded her daughter’s right. And told Ashar in not so many words, at every opportunity, that this is all she wanted. That she would be out of there as soon as Hareem recovered.
    That is what made her a strong silent empowered woman. I know there was a lot of debate on “how could she leave her child as a mother?” But I understood that too, and I don’t hold it against her character. We’ll talk about what when we get there. :)
    I still have to put in my bit about this episode. I’m sure it will be as long as ever, but I should be able to post today. :)

  • SK

    Aaah where do I begin!!! This is when I realized that Ashar has finally started to melt, little baby steps. It was an incredible journey when they fell In love and it is even more amazing how The love is rekindled, I remember how at this time some people I remember said it was dragging but for me every single interaction and dialogue they had somehow brought them closer together. The way Ashar stood up for Khirad and Hareem was a classic example, he has never ever degraded her in public or talked about her to anyone no matter what he thought, and by giving Sara the shut up call his love for his family was indirectly portrayed.
    What I was saying in my last weeks comment that never posted was that Ashar really needs closure which he never got, the angry confrontations and questioning of Khirad especially the one after his mother called show a very hurt confused person. He never thought he would see her again and now is totally at a loss as to how to react so he tries to put her in her place thinking it will faze her but Khirad is beyond that and refuses to react as her sole concern is Hareem. She in a sense has closure as she thinks he read the letter and still acted the way he did so she is at a point where she is over him. I think her behavior makes Ashars desperation even more so in wanting to know the truth from her even more so. I see it as somewhere in his heart he must know she couldn’t have done that to him.
    But like Sadaf said the way they are all acting as a family at every opportunity is lovely, not letting Hareem get involved in their issues and defending eachother is wonderful parenting.
    The bed scene just showed how the ice was melting ever so slowly, long lost feelings were being awakened , no matter how hard they tried, it was all over.

  • shazch

    In addition to Sadaf’s point about the clinical way they talk about Khirad you also see that in the next episode when Farida enters the hospital and disposes of Batool in a you are dismissed way.I always thought it was a class issue or maybe even deeper you are not part of Farida’s maternal family therefore you are disposable.
    One of the things that I also noticed was Khirad in the last episode and this episode held Ashar’s gaze.If we all remember (sigh good time )the email scene in episode 7 he talks about the fact that she cant maintain his gaze.So yes this Khirad confuses Asher even more.He expects this quiet non confrontional girl who is prepared to lie and hide an affair.Remember he refers to her robotic actions before they fall in love and he probably thought he was in for the same treatment.However, he gets the ice queen with fire in her eyes who takes no prisoners.
    The wall scene was so passionate had this been Mills and Boons they could have just fallen into each others arms.

  • shazch

    @RB firstly so glad you are back and you were definitely missed! I agree with Sadaf I think it was sheer exhaustion on Khirad’s part at the beginning of the reunion and then the soul baring of Asher which resonated with her later.I always think it is a powerful when someone admits they are wrong and takes ownership.Especially when they were also a victim of the circumstances. I am sure we will discuss that in detail when we get there.
    @Roh when I begrudgingly write my obsession I always feel better when you have taken it a step further from me!Please write more don’t hold back on our account.
    @Sadaf the reason I noticed the styling was like I said I watched episode 19 first and I was like how has this Chaddar mein lipti woman have such a hold on Muji ( I had just sort of watched KPK).I want to discuss the duppata business later as I observed something later and the obvious penny dropped but yes Mahira is gorgeous whatever she wears but like Ashar I like her hair open!
    I have more to say and will be back at some point today

  • Roh

    Sadaf, every word in that review touched the depth of my heart in every scene that you mentioned. ***sigh***
    @shazch: I went on that wild goose chase looking for meanings of the OST too. Infact I had a file, where I’d copy paste all that I would find in terms of lyrics and meanings and then try and understand it for the scene!
    RB: So good to see you back. I have loads to say about this episode, because as usual, it was one of my favs, but I will wait for everyone’s inputs, before I snatch words and thoughts away from them, like I always do. :)
    Khirad was strong, and if you are talking about waiting longer, how much longer would you think was justified? They did say it was 3 months later when the last rain scene happened. Over time, if there is a strong base, its amazing the kind of things couples let go of. I thought it was slow and steady and beautifully done.
    There is something I want to quote from DeS, when we get to the last episode, that held a lot of meaning to me. I was tempted to say that here, but I think I will wait till we reach the point when Khirad actually moves on with her life with Ashar. :)
    SK: Waiting to hear back from you. Really missed your input for the last episode with the posting glitches, and I hope you will refer to that too.
    After I read more, I will post my long never ending POV. :)

  • SK

    Ooh love love this episode but will get back to you guys, btw great Review Sada, you captured the essence very well. I also loved the bed scene, so beautifully captured:)

  • Sadaf

    ShazCh YOU TOO???? That scene had me and my husband in tears ….. we were and being the soppy ,sentimental kind we were smiling through them too.. this used to play on a Saturday evening and for some reson we were invited to qute a few dinner parties that year. It was so funny everyone arriving late becuase they were watching Humsafar before they lefty the house ( no one could possibly wait for the recording). then the discussions would go on untli after desert becuase Everyone was watching ….it really succeeded in uniting a very diverse public. There was always the one or two “I hate Humsafar” dissidents but that only added to the discussions . Ofcourse everyone was watching the Sunday morning repeat brodcasts too as almost as if these characters were so special to us that we knew we would miss them when the series finished ..
    On a separate not did you notice the styling of the actors ? I loved Khirad’s looks , her straight parting , her plain clothes how she never tried to be glamorous ( which is so unfair as Mahirah Khan would look good in a black plastic bag whereas the rest of us need major help)..

  • Sadaf

    YaaaaaY !!! RB we missed you and …thought we had frightened you off with our obsessive comments ..thank goodness , you decided to put up with us :) . I think Khirad was physically exhausted and my theory is she really overestimated the indifference she had built up as a wall of defence against Asher. at a distance she could castigate and blame him but just as he is puzzeled by her “not guilty behaviour” perhaps her she was disarmed by his complete ignorance of what had happened . As I think Roh pointed out somwhere she Khirad must have realised Asher had not read the letter she wrote him so he had no idea of her situation or her explaination ….it only takes a small crack in a wall for the fault lines to open up and the whole thing to come tumbling down….

  • RB

    Beautifully written. I agree with you on Khirad and her strength, which is why I perpetually as what happened in the last episode?! KYUN? If she’s been strong so long then why not longer? I’ll always wonder.

  • shazch

    Sadaf, Sadaf, Sadaf master reviewer that you are, you deliberately chose the scene that I have rewound a million times as your opening picture and then leave us to discuss.I remember frantically finding the lyrics to this scene and the transliteration and then listening over and over to the lines.Back to the scene we all know that no matter what these two say to each other they belong to each other even after all these years they have an affinity and attraction to each other.No wonder the nation and now the whole is obssesed.Sadaf I am glad you added that bit as I know it was a big hit but you always wonder when did the hit become the obsession.Really tired now so will wait until Roh Sk and others add their bits before I comment more.

  • shazch

    Sadaf , Sadaf you are not only a genius with words but you deliberately chose the scene that I wanted to talk about as your opening picture and then say nothing about it so we can all discuss it at length.I have rewound that sleep scene a million times her hand on his and rewound the lyrics of that particular scene again a million times.
    No matter what these two say to each other when awake we know these are meant to be with each other.No wonder the nation and now the world were and are obsessed.
    I would say more but I want Roh and Sk to add their thoughts plus pancake day beckons.

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